Our Greatest Bands Series
The Burdons
I first encountered the Burdon’s at the Fordney Hotel in November
1982. I was out with my brother-in-law just to have a few beers and unwind, we
both had children that we adored and our wives seemed to understand. I was busy
working at White’s Bar. My schedule was taxing 50 to 60 hours, six to seven days
a week, with at least one night shift. With that grind I simply forgot about
music, didn’t pay any attention to the local scene and I wasn’t tuned into the
latest trends or new wave bands that were punked up and rocking, keeping music
alive. But on the cold December night the Burdon’s awakened me from a frothy
ennui, and reignited my love for real rock & roll. These dudes took no
prisoners and they wrote their own songs and road tested those little chestnuts
until they were ripe for the picking, I recalled Go Steady (She does everything
a good girl should), Heartbeat (Time won’t hurt you anymore) and Right Back To
Me (you can tell by her clothes, she knows just where she’s goin’). Those
original songs blended perfectly with their well-placed covers, from the
Monkees hit song Last Train to Clarksville (an anti-war song hidden within the
musical borders of Boyce and Hart) to My Bonnie (Beatle’s version). I was so
out of touch that when the Burdon’s rocked hard on “What I like About You,” I
thought it was their composition. When I finally heard the Romantics original
version I knew the Burdons gave it more energy and more attitude. To this day I
prefer Jim Davenport’s punked up sound blast.
It all started in Junior High School when Jim Davenport and his
best friend Paul Schultz started jamming together, helping each other fingering
chords and bending strings. Like so many other aspiring musicians, they were
deeply inspired by the Beatles and other sixties icons. They were a quick copy
and at age 15 they were working in local bars and developing that signature
Burdon’s sound. Both were fine singers; Paul finding his voice and emulating
his heroes John Lennon and John Fogerty. Scott Causley lived around the block
and was a well-seasoned drummer with vice grip sense of rhythm and a jackhammer
backbeat. By the time he met Jim and Paul, he was ready for a change and
instinctively knew that something remarkable was about to occur. The key to the
lock was Davenport’s older brother David, at the time he was living in San
Diego where he recorded with a band called Streetlife. He then became a member
of one of San Diego’s most acclaimed bands, Claude Coma and the I.V.s. They
recorded an album called Art of Sin. It seemed as if they were on their way to
a bright future. Instead the band broke up in 1982 and David came back to
Michigan. The Burdon’s classic lineup was formed and continued to prosper
through the eighties.
It was not always easy or safe. After a gig in Detroit, two gun
wielding bandits forced their way into the van, forced the band members into
the rear of the vehicle and drove around the city, terrorizing the band and
threatening to kill them. One of the men drove along six mile road while the
other one crouched between the front seats, pointing the gun at the roadie Jeff
Todd. The driver told the other one “just pop him.” They even stopped at a gas
station, one got the gas, the other put a pillow over the gun and cautioned the
band to look straight ahead. It ended after 30 minutes when the gunmen ordered
them out of the van. All told the thieves made off with the van, the band’s
clothes, $300 in cash and credit cards and over $15,000 in equipment. Despite
all the hardship, the band performed with borrowed clothes and equipment the
next night at Traxx, a great Detroit club. The show must go on and lessons were
learned. Resilience was the clarion call.
The band did it the old fashioned way through relentless gigging
and a Beatlesque camaraderie that sustained them even in their darkest hours.
They took on venues big or small. At the height of their popularity they would
transverse the state several times over They did gigs at Delta College Commons,
Klumps in Harbor Beach, The Good Times Bar on Midland Street, Blue Water Inn in
Sanilac, Brentwood in Caro, Casa Del Ray in Bay City, the Friendly Bar in
Alpena as well as several other gigs in Mt Pleasant, Saginaw (The Banana Tree),
Kalamazoo. The pay was pretty good ranging from $200 to $600 with a variance
for an extended stay of three or so nights. It was good money at the time. The
Burdon’s eponymously titled album was released in 1984. The band worked hard in
promoting the disc. Several stations that received the album in a limited
random shipment added The Burdons to their playlists, over 50 radio stations
got onboard to launch the disc including stations in New York, Minnesota,
Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oregon and Pennsylvania.
Chris Bentley from KTEQ opined, “This album is really going to
move.”
Tim Hyde of station KUSF exclaimed, “Great album, Great band.”
John Cloud of KUOR said, “I just got off the phone with Brian at
WLBS and told him all about it. I think it’s great!”
CMJ Futures, “They have a great knack for composition.”
U.S. Rock, “When they crank up a rockabilly rhythm and shout I
wanna wanna go Steady with You.” It’s hard not to smile.
The Burdons were called “a national group just waiting to happen.”
It seemed like conscious dream drifting to an inevitable end, they will get the
contract with a well-connected manager who knows the ropes. They will become
the toppermost of the poppermost just like the Beatles. The Burdon’s daytime
and nighttime dreams would allow this almost impossible wish to come true. It’s
like dreaming they are smoking some incredible Columbian and waking up with a natural
high. They were so close to stardom. Maybe there was too much salt in the
cookies and the promise lost its sheen. It seems to me that the Burdons needed
to grow and change to become who they are today. It comes with a price that
always involves some losing, leaving and letting go
So, what happened…
The Burdon’s
Interview
When
did you kind of discover that you really liked music?
This is Paul, this is Paul talking. My
first recollection of it, I’m still in the crib, and I remember the song. It
was a song that was given to my dad for a birthday present and back in the day,
we had the victrola in the living room. And they had me
in the baby room, and I could, and the door was just cracked open a little bit.
There was a party going on, and there were people. I guess I didn’t know what
it was, you know.
But there was a lot of activity, and it
kept me awake. I keep hearing this song over and over and over, and it woke me,
you know. I’m looking around in this kind of semi-lit room, and I could hear
this song, “Singing The Blues,” over and over and over. I guess it was Guy
Mitchell.
So that came out in 1956 and the next
thing for me was the Beatles. I had nothing to compare the Beatles’ sound to,
but I know when I heard the Beatles on AM radio, my sister’s radio there was
something magnetic about that which scared me. I would literally hide. I could
hear it, but I would hide from it. There was something about it.
What
about you, Jim?
We had the old Zenith stereo two
sections. One section was a turntable and a speaker, and the next section was
just a speaker. I remember looking at the section with the turntable that had
the tubes, and I used to stare into it and I would imagine I saw an orchestra.
(Laughter) It was Harry Belafonte, Harry Belafonte nonstop. I remember just
staring at that. My dad and my mom, too, both enjoyed music so that was my very
first recollection of just being fascinated with music. My dad played mandolin
and my mother played harmonica and guitar, and I had a brother that was in a
rock band back in 1964, ’65 called the Vibrations. They were pretty popular in
the area.
I had music all around me, it was always
there. I had a desire to learn it, to do it. One of my older brothers had a
guitar. He didn’t really play very well, but I knew that you could turn the
guitar into something that made music. The thing that really pushed me wasn’t
anybody or an individual. I just wanted to have a band. I wanted to put on
shows for everybody, and before I was 10 years old, I had my first band. We
really didn’t do songs quite yet, but almost.
My buddy Gregg Billett was an original member. So Gregg and I would have
a new name for a band every week and put a new show on, the only song we ever
did was, “Hey, Joe.” I wanted to be an entertainer.
And
you, Paul?
In my world, it was, Christmastime. I
had an electric banjo, a push-button banjo that played,diddle-diddle-diddle
chords. I remember my brother, Joel pushed me out in the middle of the living
room with all the relatives around, and I’m out there with this little electric
banjo, and I’m making up songs. I remember people saying, “That was nice,
Paul,” and clapping a little bit. I remember that, and I remember a little drum
set I got at Christmas, you know, kid’s drum set, and boy I liked banging on that
baby.
He played pots and pans (Jim).
(Paul) I remember taking a piece of tape
on the guitar neck and starting off E or F, you know, bars, depending upon what
you were
doing, F chords, bar chords and listing what
the bar chords would be. I wrote them all out on the neck. I remember that. It
was the first big deal. I didn’t have anybody.
(Jim) Drums was my first instrument, I
could just only play drums. It was natural. Nobody showed me. I played drums,
guitar, and we had a bass player, piano, too. We always had a piano in the
house. Nobody taught me. We had a chord dictionary. I figured out chords with
my fingers, and then I learned songs.
So
what was your first professional band, the big band before the Burdons?
(Jim) It was the Birds. I’ll tell you, this
is how it happened. We entered a song-writing contest on WHNN. WHNN was in Bay
City at that time on Tuscola Road and we had to get a tape in. Paul and I
always wrote and recorded songs. He was the principle songwriter and he was
really good at it. We would write at his house, in the basement that we had set
up. He taught me how to do all this stuff. And we had reel-to-reel which helped
us learn to write songs.
We had to get our demo tape in, that
night to get it postmarked the next morning; otherwise we wouldn’t make it in
time. I had Paul on the phone, I had the tape and I’m looking at my journals
and I misspelled the word “Bird” several times. I would say things like, “I
feel like I’m a burdon.”So that’s it, I wrote it down there and I put a dot in the
middle of the “O.” We were going to tell people it was supposed to be an “E,”
you know, but nobody ever asked. So that’s how we became the Burdons
(Jim) We’d go over to the Garber Junior
High and play during lunch hour for those kids. Bill was on the drums, and I’m
playing the guitar on “Sister Golden Hair.” I remember that. People still come
up to me today and tell me about that song. The lady that was in charge of the
choir at Garber, let us have our own space to bring our equipment in and
practice. Every lunch hour, instead of going to lunch, we’d go in there and
jam. I’m going to tell you what, though, if there ever was a mentor later on,
that lady pushed us, and whenever there’s any kind of a show at Garber, she
wanted us there. Her name is Pat Ankney. She helped us, pushed us man. She gave
us the room at the school though we were never in choir or band.
(Paul)I remember getting out of classes
just because we were going to do a show, some show we had been involved in.
We’d get out of class, and the teacher would say, “Yeah okay, go ahead.” Between seventh grade and eighth grade, we
were locked. We just kept going on and on and on. We would rehearse in the
summertime at my parents’ house in the basement and record our stuff.
So,
let’s get into the Burdons. Did you have a manager?
(Jim) No. We didn’t get one until the
AT&N mini-album. It was Eric Burch. He came onboard when we won a
song-writing radio contest. So we had an opportunity to record our songs. Eric
Burch was the DJ that was coordinating all this. He hooked up with us. We
partied, partied, partied. He did get us in this Christian studio to do the
recording.
We had to re-record the song that won
it. So we got in there and I did bass and drums. Eric booked a couple of
showcase gigs that he wanted the band to do, one was in Mt. Pleasant. It was an
outside horseracing track at the Mt. Pleasant County Fairground. So we had a
band. We needed a drummer because I was going to switch over to bass, so we
auditioned drummers. Scott Causley was somebody that we always knew in the
neighborhood. He was a couple of years older than us. We gave him a call to
come over. Paul and I were in the basement getting ready and suddenly we hear
the door open and Eric was falling down the stairs. He was the last guy we auditioned.
We said, “Eric, you’ve got a sense of humor,” and everybody else was ready to
go … with Gregg Billett and the three of us, we were like spark plugs going
off, just like this (snapping sound).
We would build off each other, and so
when Greg died, that was gone. Jim was going, “Do you think we should play the
bass?” “Yeah, if you wanted to, you know. That means we’ve got to get a
drummer.” “Yeah, okay.” So Scott came into the picture like that, and he was a
spark plug. He was way more seasoned than us. He’s the one that really got us
to really think about playing out because Jim and I we were pretty content just
writing stuff in the basement, writing music and then once in a while go out
and do something. We really didn’t want to go hard core to the bar scene, but
Scott got into it and he said that we should play out more, so he got us
thinking seriously about that. The premise was to make our songs better because
we were doing all originals. We were a three-piece at this point
And
then your brother Dave came in.
Yeah, he was out in San Diego making
records and gigging quite a bit.
There was a lot of influence there for
the band, and then Dave got into it. He
was more like a PR guy for us. He recorded for Delta Records. And he talked to
Gary Gersh from Deppen Records, and we had Big Rock Records, that was ours.
So you had this label. It seemed like you
David were taking on the roles as a Manager in the band.
Actually both Dave and I were managing
the band because we lived in the same house. Dave and I did all the phone work,
lining everything up. And making sure all the dates were good and all that. It
was a lot of work. We made an agreement between Fred Barrett and the Burdons for
the sum of $300 a month for a period of three months if he Barrett agreed to
the promotion. We met with him
because we were trying to find somebody who could handle us. We wanted to get
up to the next level. We were getting’ tired of it. I didn’t want to do it
anymore because it was hard to please everyone. I was into girlfriends and
It’s hard to please girlfriends, and when you
got the barking in your ear, you need a manager to deal with this shit. I’m not
sure exactly how we hooked up with Fred Barrett, but we sat down with him and I
guess we agreed to let him handle us. All he ever did was get our name put into
the Detroit Free Press a couple times and then he’d tell us what to wear. I
remember having at least two or three meetings with him and by the third
meeting we were telling him he’s puking. We gave him albums to deliver to
Camelot Music. This is Geffen Records which is huge. I mean we’re talking ’85.
We sent stuff out. We contacted departments everywhere. Invariably they’d say
“Keep in touch. Keep us informed of all your new products.”
No one ever got in touch.
(PAUL)And
before that stuff, Jim and I sent off tapes and Chrysalis Records were
interested in us before the Burdons. Now they got paid. You know, we’re not PR
people. That’s like Jim saying, “Let somebody else handle it. Yeah, and quite
honestly the quality of the product that we were sending out was not…it wasn’t
a finished product. It was just giving them an idea of what was coming at them.
They would say, “Send us more.” Then nothing…it happened, it moved so quickly
We’re talking like ’79, ’80.
You
were the songwriters. Can you talk about the creative process, how you worked
on the songs, managed the harmonies, tempo etc?
(PAUL)Well for me, it was like any
person writing or creating something. You have the music, maybe a couple of
words, or maybe you have
words, lyrics and some music, or maybe
you have the whole thing. So you come into these practices, and so, “I was
playing the guitar and got this little riff going, but I’m hung up on this
part.” Then Jim would listen to it, and he’d come up with a part, and I think
we were throwing stuff around like that. He’d come in with something and it
needed a guitar phrase or it needed something added to it. That’s what really
took place, if it needed a lyric, Jim would come up with it.
We were just shooting it back and forth.
We didn’t get all hung up. If it didn’t fit, it didn’t fit. It’s like building
something. If you put the wrong things together and it doesn’t work right or it
doesn’t fit quite right, try again.
You
were the lead guitarist. What did you cut with your leads? How did that go for
you?
I’m not a lead guitarist, but I never
really wanted to play lead. I like rhythm, but then I also like John Fogarty
did stuff, you know that kind of stuff. And so that just happened. I didn’t
really plan to play lead, but it just happened. I’ve always felt that we needed
a lead guitar player. We tried to get lead guitar players, but it didn’t pan
out because our songs were somewhat of a nice, simple laid-out stuff, and these
other guitar people would come in and they’d lay in some friggin’ triplets and
just overkill the tune. Keep it simple and sweet or make it kind of a neat
little, catchy tune… garage pop.
You
had great hooks. Who sang the harmonies?
(Paul)I think that all happened by
accident and a lot of people wonder about that too because I don’t know how
this just happened but the guitar that I was playing was two and a half step
lower, E flat, okay? That’s a half step lower and the next thing you know,
everybody’s singing together, all singing and harmonizing, building chords, so
I left that idea alone. That’s where the Burdons played, a half-step down.
(Jim)Yeah, that’s where we always played,
it’s easier on the voice and its better. Now that we’re getting older, it’s
really working out good.
David played. Dave would be on the black
keys because back in the day you didn’t have the transposing button. Dave would
play everything dep, dep, dep. It was all in flats and sharps and it happened
by accident. We didn’t sit down and go, “Well, we need to get singing, get
everything together.” It just happened. It happened because we loved to sing.
(Jim) I got to say this. I was a shitty singer. I mean, my brother, Dave, is a
good singer, Paul’s a great singer. When we first started out, I sounded like a
fog horn. Flat, flat, flat. When we sing
harmonies, Dave and Paul, really hold it down and Scott and I just voiced
ourselves in.
Dave was trained like a choir boy
building chords with his voice. When he came in and added more to it as far as
the structure of the chord. Harmonizing fine-tuned it for us… it was just
knowing. For us, Dave brought that in. We were doing it, but we didn’t really
know the mechanics, the rules…“well, we can throw this note in there, it’ll add
another little dimension to it.” We’d play these notes, and Dave would say, “Jim,
you hit this one and Scott’s going to hit this one.”
I have your album totally like it. How were Sales?
I think, four thousand or so.
We went to any private stores they were
in. Anybody that had a store, they were there. Camelot or the chains were
harder to break into. I don’t know if they ever got those albums. I’m not sure.
See, we were, about 4,000 albums, that
was money, but who knows? We didn’t have a manager. We weren’t businessmen. So
we probably made some money but then we had to spend it, to live on. You got to
remember now, the Burdons turned into a business. We became a legitimate, legal
partnership in 1983. Now we went up a notch, see, when that became a business.
Joe Bonk was our lawyer and he put that together. We even had to talk about
when the band was done, who gets to use the name.
(Jim)
We get robbed in Detroit. We don’t have any equipment left because they stole everything
except for a guitar. Let’s get a loan to buy new equipment and make a record.
So we were getting a loan. We had to form a partnership and get a tax ID
because we had to claim our cars, houses, wives, kids. They’re on the friggin’
loan, so then we had expenses. We ended up with the Schools Employee Credit
Union, now it’s Sunrise Credit Union. And mind you the interest rate was quite
high back in them days, about 13%. That was pretty good, hey? So the money went
to pay back the loan.
I
bought the record when it came out for $12.93. What were your favorite songs?
Was there a particular standout for you?
(Jim and Paul)I liked them all.
(Paul) There’s not a tune I didn’t like.
What’s the one tune…“Going Away.” I thought, “Well, it’s not really finished,
but it’s kind of a cool tune.”
(Jim) My favorite songs were “Good
Times,” “Heartbeat.”
(Paul)… James got that one. He wrote
that one way before The Burdons.
Did
you start putting out a second album? Did you get to go back in the studio?
Yeah, we did. We hooked up with Henry
Weck, the gentleman from Brownsville Station. He had a studio down in Ann
Arbor, A Square Records. We went down there and started working on the next
record.
We had everything in the can. The guy
that financed it owned the Castaways in Bay City. Something happened in his family
and he backed out. They’re sitting down there. We had to give those tapes back.
We don’t own them. The studio owns them
because nothing was ever paid. I don’t remember all those songs on here. We did
a couple covers.
Did
you tour?
Yes, it’d get real expensive. We just
played a lot. That’s all we did. We were all over. We did Kalamazoo and over to
the west side. I’ll have to look. We gigged down in Kentucky. We were in a
tough spot getting agencies to work together
because when we planned this little tour our record would be out. This agency
would book us and that agency would book us and another agency would book us,
and then we’d have a gap. We would have a week to wait, and we’re going to
starve to death. We we’ve got to stay some place. It was always hard to put everything
together. Back in those days, it seemed like the agencies didn’t really like
each other because it was a roadblock!
We’d always built in the cost. We got smarter
as we got older. We’d ask for a PA so we didn’t have to drag ours. We want to
be able to stay at a motel on your wallet, not ours.
Well back in those days nobody cared
about where you stayed or how you were going to get back home or how you were
going to get to the next night or whatever. I said, “Well, we can’t do that
because, you know, it’ll kill us.” We ended up with places to stay, you know.
“I’ll sleep in your car.”
It was a great ride!
The Burdons continue to perform in and
around mid-Michigan to a loyal fan base that fondly remember the days and times
of this incredible band. The Burdons created a musical tapestry of power pop and
melodic punk, melding influences and daring to take chances with unpopular
genres. There tasty originals always promised a good time. They dared to sing
covers like Last Train to Clarksville, The Letter, and I’m a Believer. They
took you home and made you like it! Never
kissing the Donkey’s ass…too often!
